Chocolate Education
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Could you guys link the sites for the ICE and CIA programs, I can't seem to find either. I am interested in a intense several day program as I would be traveling from North Carolina to attend.
Hi All,
I was wondering if anyone has any information about or has taken the Chocolate and Confections continuing ed program offered by the CIA. I've seen a lot of reviews about Ecole Chocolat's online program, programs at FPS, ICE, etc. but I can't seem to find any reviews about the chocolate class at the CIA. I have been making chocolates for a few years now (both molded and dipped) but have been teaching myself out of books, and I thought it might be time for some formal instruction. I have really enjoyed Peter Greweling's Chocolate and Confections book because of the level of detail it offers, which is the reason I'm thinking of taking the CIA 5-day course.
Thanks,
Rachel
Nancy,
I am also in New York City.
As for internship people usually like to work with people who do not live in the same geographical region - after all, you will become competition.
I did exactly the same thing you did: I took the 2 chocolate technique from ICE, followed by the Ecole Chocolat online training.
Once you are done with the Ecole Chocolat training you can apply for internship with chocolatiers from the US and one from Canada. I have not done the internship yet, but I am considering it more and more.
You should keep looking for opportunities in NYC, but just consider that you could go someplace else you've never been before, work at a place that is used to interns, and do not have to worry about the ethics of learning from someone who will be your competition in the near future.
Best of luck!
Andre Costa
DaCosta Chocolates
Michael,
Thank you for your offer to call you! I have known about JoMart for quite a while (my family were Sheepshead Bay natives for many years).
Thank You,
Nancy
Hi Nancy,
Welcome to the (truly) wonderful world of chocolate. My family has been manufacturing chocolates in Brooklyn since 1946. I have been teaching chocolate workshops for the past 10 years. Feel free to call me and chat about your future. You can check us out first.
JoMartChocolates.com
718-375-1277
Good Luck,
Michael
Ruben,
The class was pretty amazing and I think well worth it. Faith Drobbin was an excellent instructor...she knows her stuff! There were people of all levels in the class from the novice to some who were a bit more experienced. I fell into the latter group. We partnered up (beware of some wacky people...I was lucky enough to have a wonderful parnter) for the week. Day 1 focused on tempering chocolate (seeding method) and then we made clusters, bark, and dipped fruit. Day 2 we did truffles in different flavor combinations and enrobed them. Chef Faith's chai spiced truffles were very good! Day 3 focused on candymaking and we made chocolate caramels, a buttercrunch, chocolate covered candied almonds, and torrone. Day 4 we made solid molded chocolates and filled molded chocolates with a variety of fillings. Day 5 we did hand dipped truffles that we framed first and then dipped (my favorite type) and then enrobed.
The class was really good and top notch ingredients were used. I'd love to find a chocolatier that I could apprentice with in Long Island (not having any luck) or NYC. You will love the course if you take it!
Nancy
I follow the freezing direction from Peter Greweling's book (Chocolates & confections - formal, theory, and techniques for the artisan confectioner) which works really well: 1. Pack the chocolates in sturdy containers and fill as much as possible (the less air there is, the less chance of condensation), then vacuum pack the container if possible. 2. put in fridge for 24 hours, before putting them in the freezer (this prevents sudden contraction and possible cracking). Defrost 2 days before intended use: 1. its important to transfer from freezer to the fridge and leave the chocolates there for 24 hours where they can be slow-thawed and not crack from thermal shock. 2. From fridge, take chocolate into room temperature, leave for 24 hours to ensure that they reach room temperature before opening pack - this helps prevent condensation and hence sugar bloom.
Again, thank you Lana for your invaluable advice. I think for the nut covered truffles, I will freeze the already rolled ganache pieces, then dip and cover with nuts when needed so as to keep the nuts intact as possible... as unlike your pecan pieces, they are not candied.
Thanks so much, Lana. Yes, I do put them in a FoodSaver bag, single layer, and then vacuum seal it. This is the information I needed! Perfect!
Lana & Ruth ~ When I have vacuum packed my finished rolled chocolates, the "vacuuming" has ended up cracking the shells. Now, I didn't have them in layers in a box, either. I am just wondering if putting them in boxes will help mitigate this problem. Do you stop the vacuum process when the bag is really tight around the box or ??? How can you tell when to stop so that I don't crack the shells? I would love to be able to vacuum seal my finished pieces. It would save a boatload of time and last minute orders would be so much easier to fill. Right now, I have opted to vacuum seal the rolled balls and that works fine.
Ruth and Lana, thank you both for being so helpful! I'll let you know how I go!
I also freeze finished chocolates. I use snap n seal containers. I freeze enrobed pieces with transfer sheets (not still attached) and molded pieces with no problems. One thing to consider, some flavors intensify when frozen, such as chili peppers. I do one piece that has habanero and I don't freeze that one as it is unpredictable.
Hi Lana, thank you for your information, which is exactly what I was looking for. Could you clarify a few things for me. Like Gap, I have problems with the Australian heat and I am just a beginner, embarking on starting my small chocolate business - so proper freezing practice would be most helpful.
"I make several frames a week of the same flavour and then package them in bulk boxes. Each bulk box has 5 layers and holds a total of 244 chocolates"
- Did you freeze your 'frames' (I assume that these are slabs of ganache poured into frames?) without cutting into pieces, or are they cut into 244 pieces?
- If cut, are they also dipped into chocolate?
- I'm also guessing that you don't actually freeze the actual frames? I use plastic stackable frames.
-The boxes from Nashville that you use are strong enough to withstand the vacuum packing?
I have frozen slabs and balls (from silicon moulds) of ganache, so when thawed out 24hrs in fridge, then 24hrs in room temperature, I THEN cut and enrobe. I know that one can freeze enrobed pieces, but I am concerned with damage done to the surface or chocolate transfer pattern used. I would really be pleased if you have done so successfully! Thank you again for your very useful information.
I've been experimenting with and looking for recipes for chocolate milk. Mostly for personal reasons -- I've been told to drink more milk but can't stand the taste. I don't like commercial chocolate milk either. So I've been resorting to making hot drinking chocolate with dark chocolate and warm milk and letting it cool before consumption.
I'm wondering if anyone else out there has a recipe for chocolate milk that will hold after you make a batch of it and leave it in the fridge to drink as desired. Thanks in advance for your time.
hi yes the ones i have are dryed and this has preserved them but not the colour
i only know one other way to keep the colour but i dont know anyone who can do it
i herd that after they are cut from the tree they are dipped in a lacquer but i dont know if it works
I was told some cocoa pods come in a jar filled with a liquid that preserves them. that way they keep their colour and do not dry out.Does anyone supply the pods in these jars?Laura did you figure out a way to preserve?
Thanks!